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	<title>Comments on: When the answer is &#8220;hell no&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://martyholman.com/2009/11/whentheanswerishellno/comment-page-1/#comment-9723</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>snaps brutha. snaps.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely said.
It occurred to me, as I was reading this, that fairly wise people have observed that there is no Christian music, just Christian lyrics.  It seemed to me, though, that we can actually make a much more important distinction.

Lyrics could mention Christ&#039;s name  and actual be quite opposed to what Christ was about.  I could sing a song about how Jesus loves me more than he loves people outside the church, and (be using his name very much in vain.)  These would, in some sense, be Christian lyrics.  But they wouldn&#039;t be lyrics that Christ lives in.
On the other hand, there could be words that don&#039;t mention Christ&#039;s name, even written by someone who does not profess Christ&#039;s name as lord, that Jesus very much does live in.

This leads me to wonder, if that isn&#039;t the real distinction, the real question for lots more stuff: we think what counts is whether or not we used Jesus&#039; name, but the real issue is whether or not Jesus spirit could inhabit what we do, think, and use.

A Christian cofee house uses Jesus name... It&#039;s entirely a different question whether Jesus is actually present there.  Ditto retreats, stores, all those other things.  The label &quot;Christian&quot; is quite irrelevant in deciding if Jesus is really present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely said.<br />
It occurred to me, as I was reading this, that fairly wise people have observed that there is no Christian music, just Christian lyrics.  It seemed to me, though, that we can actually make a much more important distinction.</p>
<p>Lyrics could mention Christ&#8217;s name  and actual be quite opposed to what Christ was about.  I could sing a song about how Jesus loves me more than he loves people outside the church, and (be using his name very much in vain.)  These would, in some sense, be Christian lyrics.  But they wouldn&#8217;t be lyrics that Christ lives in.<br />
On the other hand, there could be words that don&#8217;t mention Christ&#8217;s name, even written by someone who does not profess Christ&#8217;s name as lord, that Jesus very much does live in.</p>
<p>This leads me to wonder, if that isn&#8217;t the real distinction, the real question for lots more stuff: we think what counts is whether or not we used Jesus&#8217; name, but the real issue is whether or not Jesus spirit could inhabit what we do, think, and use.</p>
<p>A Christian cofee house uses Jesus name&#8230; It&#8217;s entirely a different question whether Jesus is actually present there.  Ditto retreats, stores, all those other things.  The label &#8220;Christian&#8221; is quite irrelevant in deciding if Jesus is really present.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy McGuiness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy McGuiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Marty.  I can&#039;t agree more.  The most damaging thing to Christians and our influence, and that of Jesus Christ is Christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Marty.  I can&#8217;t agree more.  The most damaging thing to Christians and our influence, and that of Jesus Christ is Christians.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done, sir.  Really good post.</description>
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