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		<title>By: David Huey</title>
		<link>http://martyholman.com/2008/04/i-still-have-the-lousy-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as you know.. the key to this is the filling of the Holy Spirit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as you know.. the key to this is the filling of the Holy Spirit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://martyholman.com/2008/04/i-still-have-the-lousy-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that I often engage in a relationship with Jesus, but don&#039;t in fact abide in him.  I&#039;m working at it and I&#039;m getting better, but I&#039;m not there.  And I think some other people are in this place with me.

The biggest difference in my mind is this: If I were abiding (like a vine, or a baby in utero) it would be a 24/7 kind of deal.  When things were good, I would praise God; when things were tough I would lean on him.
I have this tendency to be like the Israelites: Calling out to God when things are tough but thinking that I did it all myself and that I deserve all the credit when things are going well.  During these periods I don&#039;t abide, and I always suffer for it... Even in these periods, I&#039;m still in relationship with him, just like I&#039;m in relationship with lots of folks I don&#039;t see or interact with on a daily basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that I often engage in a relationship with Jesus, but don&#8217;t in fact abide in him.  I&#8217;m working at it and I&#8217;m getting better, but I&#8217;m not there.  And I think some other people are in this place with me.</p>
<p>The biggest difference in my mind is this: If I were abiding (like a vine, or a baby in utero) it would be a 24/7 kind of deal.  When things were good, I would praise God; when things were tough I would lean on him.<br />
I have this tendency to be like the Israelites: Calling out to God when things are tough but thinking that I did it all myself and that I deserve all the credit when things are going well.  During these periods I don&#8217;t abide, and I always suffer for it&#8230; Even in these periods, I&#8217;m still in relationship with him, just like I&#8217;m in relationship with lots of folks I don&#8217;t see or interact with on a daily basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Audra Krell</title>
		<link>http://martyholman.com/2008/04/i-still-have-the-lousy-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>Audra Krell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the analogy of the baby not being able to live without the mother.  I am hard pressed though, to find people in my world, who are in relationship with Christ, but can live without Him and aren&#039;t abiding in him.  They are pretty synonymous terms in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the analogy of the baby not being able to live without the mother.  I am hard pressed though, to find people in my world, who are in relationship with Christ, but can live without Him and aren&#8217;t abiding in him.  They are pretty synonymous terms in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Dancy</title>
		<link>http://martyholman.com/2008/04/i-still-have-the-lousy-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Dancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey marty,
Thanks for posting this.  I have had some great things happening by way of being &quot;free&quot; with Christ, with my friends, my family, co-workers, and even muyself.  It is a needed change.

Also, great mention of abiding and relationship.   

We were talking about this last night a bit.  I don&#039;t think it is abiding vs. relationship with Christ.  I think it is important to note that abiding is the relationship. 

It is through abiding that we relate to Christ.  it is only when we abide that we can truly be like Him, be used by Him, please Him, continue to grow, and remain healthy.

I can&#039;t really get my brain around the whole concept, but I try.  

Love ya Bro&#039;

Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey marty,<br />
Thanks for posting this.  I have had some great things happening by way of being &#8220;free&#8221; with Christ, with my friends, my family, co-workers, and even muyself.  It is a needed change.</p>
<p>Also, great mention of abiding and relationship.   </p>
<p>We were talking about this last night a bit.  I don&#8217;t think it is abiding vs. relationship with Christ.  I think it is important to note that abiding is the relationship. </p>
<p>It is through abiding that we relate to Christ.  it is only when we abide that we can truly be like Him, be used by Him, please Him, continue to grow, and remain healthy.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t really get my brain around the whole concept, but I try.  </p>
<p>Love ya Bro&#8217;</p>
<p>Al</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops.  I left &quot;#1&quot; in there.  #2 was going to be some geeky point about Jedi and Sith.  I couldn&#039;t bring myself to write it but I forget to take the number sign and the &quot;1&quot; out of the post.
But I just realized the last line of your post links back to the top of the post.  Is that some sort of deep post-modern demonstration of the self-referential nature of the truth?
;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops.  I left &#8220;#1&#8243; in there.  #2 was going to be some geeky point about Jedi and Sith.  I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to write it but I forget to take the number sign and the &#8220;1&#8243; out of the post.<br />
But I just realized the last line of your post links back to the top of the post.  Is that some sort of deep post-modern demonstration of the self-referential nature of the truth?<br />
 <img src='http://martyholman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://martyholman.com/2008/04/i-still-have-the-lousy-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1) Great post Marty.  I appreciate your integrity and honesty in these areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1) Great post Marty.  I appreciate your integrity and honesty in these areas.</p>
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		<title>By: I still have the lousy T-shirt &#171; One word: Fellowship</title>
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		<dc:creator>I still have the lousy T-shirt &#171; One word: Fellowship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I think that’s where true freedom lies. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marty Holman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Ian. My apologies to any and all Star Wars fans.  I would change it, but now it&#039;s a bit endearing to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Ian. My apologies to any and all Star Wars fans.  I would change it, but now it&#8217;s a bit endearing to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dark lord of the Sith would not have a Jedi apprentice, he would have a Sith apprentice.</description>
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